Can you afford not to?

I grow it.;)

my dad sometimes does that too.

grog said:Can you afford not to?It comes down to "can't have your cake and eat it to". Either you believe in natural foods or you believe that the Earth can sustain current or even greater population numbers. It doesn't realistically work both ways.

If i spend less money on other unnecessary stuff, like chips, pizza, and whatever else, i would be able to afford it, yes! I think it's time i start going organic though, just not sure where u always find the stuff....but then again, i want to grow as much of my food as i can! Already started with the mini tomatoes! And they're already taking up 1/2 the garden...well, almost! Hehe! ;o)

Many farmers have found that their yields increase when they return to organic farming and the earth cannot suvive being bombarded with ever increasing doses of neurotoxins. I produce phenomenal amounts of food in my yard. Food that is more nutritious and much better tasting than the chemically degraded crap.GetOffMyLawn said:grog said:Can you afford not to?It comes down to "can't have your cake and eat it to". Either you believe in natural foods or you believe that the Earth can sustain current or even greater population numbers. It doesn't realistically work both ways.

grog said:Many farmers have found that their yields increase when they return to organic farming and the earth cannot suvive being bombarded with ever increasing doses of neurotoxins. I produce phenomenal amounts of food in my yard. Food that is more nutritious and much better tasting than the chemically degraded crap.It comes down to scalability and logistics. You're not exactly trying to take what's in your yard and ship it thousands of miles. You're also not trying to live on just what you grow during the limited growing season available to you, nor do you have to worry about how storable those foodstuffs are.

Many studies have shown that organic farming does not decrease crop yeilds, in fact some crops such as corn and soybeans yeild considerably more. See http://wis.dm/questions/484518-did-you-know-tha...
GetOffMyLawn said:grog said:Many farmers have found that their yields increase when they return to organic farming and the earth cannot suvive being bombarded with ever increasing doses of neurotoxins. I produce phenomenal amounts of food in my yard. Food that is more nutritious and much better tasting than the chemically degraded crap.It comes down to scalability and logistics. You're not exactly trying to take what's in your yard and ship it thousands of miles. You're also not trying to live on just what you grow during the limited growing season available to you, nor do you have to worry about how storable those foodstuffs are.

grog said:Many studies have shown that organic farming does not decrease crop yeilds, in fact some crops such as corn and soybeans yeild considerably more.1) please stop top-posting. It's really freaking annoying. 2) you're only answering a very SMALL part of the equation: growing some types of crops. It does you no good to grow them if you can't get them to consumers in a condition they're interested in consuming them in. The problem has never really been with the cereals but with the more delicate food products. Most people would rather eat the non-organically grown "fresh" tomato than an organically grown tomato that they had to eat frozen/canned/dried/jarred or otherwise preserved. There just isn't enough arable land to allow affordable organic food to be available year-round to all population centers. Everybody doesn't live in regions capable of producing organic food year-round.

Apparently I was not clear, ALL crops give competitive yields when organically grown and SOME crops yield considerably more. Please read the more in the question I referenced above. And, sorry, I prefer top posting!GetOffMyLawn said:grog said:Many studies have shown that organic farming does not decrease crop yeilds, in fact some crops such as corn and soybeans yeild considerably more.1) please stop top-posting. It's really freaking annoying. 2) you're only answering a very SMALL part of the equation: growing some types of crops. It does you no good to grow them if you can't get them to consumers in a condition they're interested in consuming them in. The problem has never really been with the cereals but with the more delicate food products. Most people would rather eat the non-organically grown "fresh" tomato than an organically grown tomato that they had to eat frozen/canned/dried/jarred or otherwise preserved. There just isn't enough arable land to allow affordable organic food to be available year-round to all population centers. Everybody doesn't live in regions capable of producing organic food year-round.

And, I forgot to address this, what does how food is grown have to do with shipping? Nothing! The fact is that the tomatoes you buy in a supermarket are picked when very green so they do not spoil before they get to the consumer. I also advocate that people eat local, in season produce as much as possible.GetOffMyLawn said:grog said:Many studies have shown that organic farming does not decrease crop yeilds, in fact some crops such as corn and soybeans yeild considerably more.1) please stop top-posting. It's really freaking annoying. 2) you're only answering a very SMALL part of the equation: growing some types of crops. It does you no good to grow them if you can't get them to consumers in a condition they're interested in consuming them in. The problem has never really been with the cereals but with the more delicate food products. Most people would rather eat the non-organically grown "fresh" tomato than an organically grown tomato that they had to eat frozen/canned/dried/jarred or otherwise preserved. There just isn't enough arable land to allow affordable organic food to be available year-round to all population centers. Everybody doesn't live in regions capable of producing organic food year-round.